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Discussion in 'Social Discussion' started by electrolyte, Sep 26, 2016.

  1. micky

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    will work for cheese

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    They will continue to "not recall" as long as they're conveniently able to push their agenda with him in office. It's revolting.
     
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    So following the way it goes whenever he says something reprehensible, how long before he admits that he actually said those words and that he meant to say them and how it was a very good thing that he said them. Next week?
     
  3. micky

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    will work for cheese

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    Yep, I'll give him the weekend, unless...he has a meltdown and gets distracted by something else and forgets about this...or says or does something else completely idiotic and reprehensible and has to deny it...or...

    Damn, I'm exhausted.
     
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    http://www.latimes.com/politics/95641832-132.html

    There's nothing people in their 20s and 30s love more than politicians telling them their problems aren't real. Biden 2020!
     
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    "I have no empathy" might as well be the slogan for American politics in general at this point
     
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  6. Farmer Pleco

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  7. Horse Feathers

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    There's no future in time travel.

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    For some reason this oldie by the Classics IV has been in my head all day. It's quite catchy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

     
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    Tbf, given his age and upbringing, this sort of remark is not surprising in the least.

    To distract myself from our already-troubled, crumbling, dysfunctional country becoming a worldwide disgrace (it hasn't even been ONE YEAR! since the inauguration nobody attended), I have been devouring history lately, trying to make sense of how we got to this moment. Part of that is I am finally watching this apparently revered WWII documentary The World At War (1973). It is an amazing series so far, but describes a world and manner of existence completely alien to anyone born and raised in this country after 1970. In a gif, it's basically 26 hours of pain, suffering, and

    [​IMG]

    Biden is a product of a different time, one directly impacted by the spectre and suffering of war, which might explain though obviously not excuse his comments. edit: I didn't realize he was hitching his wagon in this clip to the Baby Boomers, as I've always understood his place in history as more belonging to the Silent generation. So if he's going to identify as a Boomer now, then fuck him, because white boomers as a cohort enjoyed relatively privileged upbringings thanks to the Allied victory, technological advances of the industrialized war machine and Democratic Party social policies, weathered the quagmire of Vietnam, then enjoyed even more peace and prosperity throughout their middle age while conveniently ignoring the changing world around them. The politicos and money men who filled their civic void after Vietnam are now starting to enjoy the fruits of their labor as we descend into something more closely resembling an illiberal kleptocracy.

    The fear and complacency of millions of older Americans help lead us to the dark place in which we are now. And thanks to medical advances they will be with us for awhile even though they either can't or won't see where we're going wrt automation and climate change (among other things) and the gargantuan economic and immigration changes that will result from both. Neither Biden, nor ANYONE older than age 50 or so has enough experience with the world WE live in, nor enough life left to have a real stake in it, to be my first choice for any state or federal office at this point.
     
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    following her escort from the building, the WH says she 'resigned.'
     
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  12. Horse Feathers

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    There's no future in time travel.

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    Don't trust anyone over 30.:banhappy:
     
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    Many argued against Party and Washington himself specifically refused to join or even favor any nascent Parties.
    However, Parties are inevitable and function to divide up issues and force compromises. Works pretty well and it's functioning beautifully today.
     
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    Someday you'll have to look outside the facade of Generational Politics and make some effort to put yourself in others' shoes. I'd further argue that your viewpoint is due to a lack of diversity in your exposure to oppositional viewpoints at all. I live in a town where the older population is skewed very left. Most of the Upper-Middle-Class people I talk to, here and everywhere, are disconnected Liberals who dwell in a sequestered Estate of Privilege, and have no idea what working-class people are dealing with. I don't have a specific indictment against young people, however their world is extremely limited in view and this is due to the cancer of what the Internet has become. The watchword of 2016 was Echo Chamber. Each technological generation (for no temporal generation exists and you can find research on this), each tech generation has it's own obstacle.

    The Obstacle of the post genX generations is the comfortable, soporific chamber they are purposefully ensconced within, created for them by the Matrix of Huge Corporate politics.

    In short, Generational Politics is either a cop-out (as you are using it), or a tool (as Steve Bannon is using it). If you're seeking understanding, look past the 'Generations'. It mostly bunk.
     
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    Misperception. There is no significant Neo Nazi movement in the United States, and every single member of the KKK is known to the FBI and has been since the summer of 1964. There are about 5000 Klansmen in the entire US, and the FBI has a file on every single one. They overlap with Neo Nazi groups, and the FBI has a very good handle on them as well.

    Identity Politics are already a thing. For 80 years this country has been telling everyone that the most significant dimension of their being is the racial identity one can legally apply to a government form.

    When people start standing up and saying "Hey, everyone else in this country gets a group like La Raza (The Race), but if we even peep that we identify as White, we're labeled a Neo Nazi?"

    Obviously that condition won't persist. You can't tell everyone that their racial attributes are the most important thing about the, then expect them to lay down all identity when it comes to bellying up to the cultural and financial teat. Especially not when you have Politicians talking about The End of Employment or the obsolescence of the human worker. That's an inconsistency that will be rectified, that's how human events go.

    What will happen is that a White Racial Identity will emerge, and the culture will just have to get used to it.

    I would expect a plethora of White Identity groups to form, eventually speaking the exact same language as The Race, the Black Panthers, the NAACP, various Tribal groups, the ADL, etc. Just interchange the adjectives, and that's what we're headed toward.
     
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  18. jklmnop

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    One reply to me and you're making some wild assumptions (you know what they say about assumptions) about my experience, economic class, worldview, and even character. Any further time spent on replying to you will be a waste of everyone's time, so instead here's a gif.

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  19. jan

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    certainly, I hope you're wrong. In my world up here in NE - this would never happen. We pride ourselves on being inclusive.

    I have a lot of hope for the future, and it doesn't include tribalism at all. Just respect. :cheers:
     
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